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Smoking and survival in centenarians
Pubmed ^ | May 2004 | Cicconetti P, Tafaro L, Tedeschi G, Tombolillo MT, Ursino R, Marigliano V.

Posted on 05/22/2004 8:02:55 AM PDT by qam1

Dipartimento di Scienze dell'Invecchiamento, Universita La Sapienza, Roma.

Cigarette smoking has been clearly linked to the most common causes of death in the elderly and contributes to the higher death rate and disability rate associated with many chronic illnesses that are common in this age group. The combination of smoking along with other risk factors like hypertension and diabetes increase high frequency disease, and disability as well as adding to an increase in mortality rate. In order to verify if a healthy lifestyle really favours longevity and how much smoking is incompatible with extreme longevity, we investigated the prevalence of smokers and the total smoking exposure of a sample of centenarians as regards residual survival and health conditions. Our sample consists of 157 centenarians selected among the registered residents of Rome: 39 males and 118 females (ratio = 1:3), mean age being 101.59 years (sd = 1.8). 83.8% of the centenarians have never smoked, 13.5% are former smokers, and 2.7% are active smokers. The average starting age of smoking was 21.2 years while the average age of quitting in former smokers was 65.7 years with an average of 44.7 smoking years (sd = 17.1). The average number of smoked cigarettes per day is quite low, less than 10 cigarettes. There seemed to be a significant difference (p < 0.001) in gender results in smokers: male centenarians were 46%, while female reached only 8.1%. Statistically significant higher prevalence of diseases illnesses were noted among centenarian smokers over the age of 65 (p < 0.02). Moreover Cox's regression has shown in centenarians a lower survival rate (p < 0.05) in smokers than in non-smokers.

In conclusion, our study is evidence that smoking is for all, but some exceptional subjects, incompatible with successful aging and compromises life expectancy even in extreme longevity.

PMID: 15147062 [PubMed - in process]


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: andscorpions; centenarians; health; niconazis; pufflist; smoking
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1 posted on 05/22/2004 8:02:55 AM PDT by qam1
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To: *puff_list; lockjaw02; Madame Dufarge; SheLion; Gabz; Flurry; Mears; Just another Joe; ...
PING

I would really like to know what the smoking rates of this generation was to begin with. Being that they lived through World War I torn Italy I am sure it's quite low.

2 posted on 05/22/2004 8:06:35 AM PDT by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: qam1

"What this country needs is a good five cent cigar."
U.S. Vice President Thomas Riley Marshall in 1917.

"Monica, hand me that cigar would ya?"
Bill Clinton 1996


3 posted on 05/22/2004 8:07:32 AM PDT by TheOldRepublic
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To: qam1

Who the hell wants to live that long? I know I don't.

That generation would be my parents' generation and more men smoked than women.I had 2 aunts that smoked and they both lived to the mid eighties.


4 posted on 05/22/2004 8:10:59 AM PDT by Mears
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To: qam1; *puff_list; Just another Joe; Great Dane; Madame Dufarge; Gabz; MeeknMing; steve50; ...
LOL! I guess if we didn't smoke, we would live forever? heheh!


5 posted on 05/22/2004 8:15:01 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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To: qam1

I detest even second hand smoke. But I'm not a fool. My father is 90 and smoked most of life, though not for the last 10 years. I see little wrong with him that be pinned on smoking.

He didn't smoke just cigarettes. Much (most?) of it was cigars and pipes.


6 posted on 05/22/2004 8:18:50 AM PDT by dennisw (Koran teaches: "Cut off their heads, and cut off the tips of their fingers." (Sura 8:12))
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To: qam1
If you don't smoke, you'll live forever.

7 posted on 05/22/2004 8:28:53 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: dennisw
I detest even second hand smoke. But I'm not a fool. My father is 90 and smoked most of life, though not for the last 10 years. I see little wrong with him that be pinned on smoking.

My grandmother smoked three packs of non-filtered Camels a day and died of old age - 86.

8 posted on 05/22/2004 8:28:59 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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To: qam1
[Smoking]compromises life expectancy even in extreme longevity.

HUH?

9 posted on 05/22/2004 8:39:43 AM PDT by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: dennisw
My father is 90 and smoked most of life, though not for the last 10 years. I see little wrong with him that be pinned on smoking.

Well according to the Antis, His death and when these centenarians die are all premature deaths due to smoking.

10 posted on 05/22/2004 8:42:51 AM PDT by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: Mears
Who the hell wants to live that long? I know I don't.

If I was an invalid, no. But if I was healthy and active like some people are at that age, you bet I want to live that long, or longer.

11 posted on 05/22/2004 8:54:11 AM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: qam1

This means nothing.. it is junk science...


12 posted on 05/22/2004 8:55:49 AM PDT by Drammach (Freedom.... not just a job, ... It's An Adventure!!!)
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To: dennisw
I enjoy cigars frequently and a pipe once in a while. Yet I've never so much as touched a cigarette and always encourage people to stop smoking cigarettes.

Some people see this as contradictory. I don't because there's a world of difference between cigars and cigarettes; in purpose, in health consequences, and addictiveness.

13 posted on 05/22/2004 8:56:25 AM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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To: qam1
The little bit of scientific and statistical background I have forces me to jump in here. This study is a joke, right? Read the following sentences carefully.

Statistically significant higher prevalence of diseases illnesses were noted among centenarian smokers over the age of 65 (p < 0.02).

Centenarian smokers are by definition over 65. HELLO? Department of Redundancy Department callling.

Moreover Cox's regression has shown in centenarians a lower survival rate (p < 0.05) in smokers than in non-smokers.

OK, who cares how much longer you live after one hundred anyway? Not that the above is bad science, but the extra longevity can't be significant, nor of a particularly high quality. It's not like these people have been cheated out of a couple of years of night clubbing, tom-catting around, and doing wheelies through parking lots on Ducati sport bikes.

In conclusion, our study is evidence that smoking is for all, but some exceptional subjects, incompatible with successful aging and compromises life expectancy even in extreme longevity.

See my comments above. This study was a waste of money. They're looking at life on the fringes. It's almost like saying, "Infants have a lower level of job satisfaction than college graduates". Duh.

14 posted on 05/22/2004 9:07:18 AM PDT by Hardastarboard
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To: tdadams
FWIW ...... I like don't mind pipe and cigar smoke as much as cigarette smoke. When "found" 500+ years ago, the Indians never got the quick rush from cigarettes. They smoked cigars and pipes to the best of my knowledge.
15 posted on 05/22/2004 9:07:47 AM PDT by dennisw (Koran teaches: "Cut off their heads, and cut off the tips of their fingers." (Sura 8:12))
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To: Hardastarboard
It's almost like saying, "Infants have a lower level of job satisfaction than college graduates". Duh.

Heheh!

16 posted on 05/22/2004 9:10:11 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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To: qam1
This is hilarious, and I am totally perplexed that the obvious connection was totally ignored. No. I am not surprised at all.

The "scientists" presenting this study failed (miserably) to address the one fly in their "useful idiots" ointment:

Of the 10 confirmed longest-lived people in history, nine of them smoked until age 100.
Does this prove that smoking is good for you? Not at all. I am just amused that facts embarrassing to the "researchers" are conveniently ignored or deemed inconsequential. I am not at all surprised.

17 posted on 05/22/2004 9:11:19 AM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either.)
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Eubie Blake on his 100th birthday: "If I'd known I was going to live this long, I would of taken better care of myself."

Satchmo, in response to question about "what was wrong with" a bandmember who died suddenly, "Man, when you dead, everything's wrong with you."


18 posted on 05/22/2004 9:13:24 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Uday and Qusay are ead-day)
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To: SheLion

My Great Uncle John smoked until the day he died at 107, same for my maternal Grand Father, and he was gassed in WW1, 87. I think allot of longevity is genetic.


19 posted on 05/22/2004 9:17:42 AM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Gay State!)
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To: qam1

bump


20 posted on 05/22/2004 9:22:34 AM PDT by VOA
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